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Michael Jackson- Victim or Victimizer?

With the passing of Michael Jackson today, one of our generation’s biggest icons, my initial response was sad.

A few minutes later that had passed and I started to think about the child abuse allegations that he had been accused of in the last few years. 

I loved Michael Jackson growing up. I think he had talent.  I think he was an amazing dancer and entertainer and he took “rock star” to a new level.  I still turn the radio up when I hear his songs.  I am not questioning his talent nor his contributions to the entertainment industry, but as a mother his child abuse allegations are extremely disturbing to me.

Michael Jackson was a great singer and a pop icon- I liked his music and my family and I actually met him through a family friend in 1984. 

However, I feel Michael Jackson (MJ) was a *serial* child molester / pedophile, or whatever term you want to use.  

Non-molesters don’t have young boys over to sleep in their beds & then pay out millions to keep it quiet. Michael Jackson befriended young boys, sometimes from disadvantaged backgrounds, and then took them to his ranch, banning their parents.

This is a HUGE red flag.  If MJ loved children so much, why didn’t he befriend them at Disneyland? Take them to public places, have their parents along, or just even go hang out at these children’s homes?

Giving MJ the benefit of the doubt, and assuming he was victimized by these families out to destroy him and get money from him, which is what MJ claimed, he should have never had put himself in a situation like this again after the first allegation. But he did, and he chose to do this- still taking the boys to his private ranch.  

It is interesting how so many other celebrities like Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Madonna, Meg Ryan, Mia Farrow, etc., can have big hearts for children and work with them, and yet none of them have been “victimized” claiming they have been falsely accused of molestation for money.  No child can describe Brad Pitt’s genitalia like one of  Michael Jackson’s alleged abuser could. I don’t consider Michael Jackson bigger than “Brangelina”, and there have been no claims of inappropriate sleep overs from the Jolie-Pitt house.  So I don’t buy into the money claim.  

The FACTS are MJ was arrested once and accused twice of child molestation.  He settled out of court once, and found not guilty once. Both times the details have been sealed, and millions of dollars were paid out.  If he had nothing to hide, why not let the facts get out there to clear his name? Celebrities get accused of false things all the time, but very few of them get arrested, and hide the details-twice.

The case would never have gone to trial without sufficient evidence in the 2005 case, where Michael and the boy were discovered sleeping in bed together. How many other celebrities are having sleep overs with minor children in their houses with doors locked, and parents banned?

How many just normal parents have sleepovers like this with their children’s friends?    I can imagine the outrage if a Boy Scout leader was found sleeping in his tent with boy scouts on on an overnight camping trip.  Parents and the public would be outraged-as we should be.  But since this is MJ and he could do the moon-walk, these facts are pushed to the background-suddenly a 40 year old man who has 13 year old boys sleep with him in bed, doesn’t matter.   

I view this like OJ Simpson. He never got convicted and was found not guilty either of killing his wife and Ron Goldman, but he had a lot of money, and was able to create doubt. Even if he could run with a football.  Are there any people out there ten plus years later that don’t think OJ had something to do with the murders of his wife and her friend?  Even though the jury said he didn’t?   

I don’t care what talent in life you have- if you put yourself in compromising positions when you are under a spotlight, especially with minor children, you create suspicion on yourself.  You have to be even more careful.     If they ever release the evidence and the facts of the cases about these boys and Michel Jackson comes to light that he was completely innocent, I will be the first to apologize for doubting Mr. Jackson’s innocence.  

Michael Jackson’s family has my sympathy- no family should have to lose a loved one, but I am more sorry for the families of MJ’s victims and the position these young boys were put in by an ADULT man who should have known better not to have young boys locked in his bedroom sleeping in the same bed with him. Some things in life, you just don’t get to do- and this is one of them.   

I don’t care if you can throw a football, raise money for children in Africa, run with a football, dance, sing, or are the greatest entertainer in the world.  Putting yourself in compromising positions over and over again with young children, that raises a question of inappropriate behavior with them is wrong.  No matter who you are.   

There is no free pass for taking advantage and molesting children. Don’t take them in your bed to sleep with them.  Don’t lock the door to the bedroom, and don’t ban the parents.  Seems pretty simple to me.  We all make mistakes, and no one is perfect. How could MJ NOT have known or had not been advised to do this-  but he chose to do it anyway.   

The world lost a great entertainer, but his victims have lost their innocence too.  They will never get that back.  Victimizing the most vulnerable in our society is unforgivable, and I for one, can’t help but feel somewhat relieved that there is one less person putting innocent children in compromising situations.

Note: for more information, read The Smoking Gun: The Case Against Michael Jackson: https://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/010605jackson.html

**NOTE: If you don’t share my opinion with me fine-feel free to leave your thoughts.  I don’t allow swearing or profanity on my blog and if you leave profanity in your comments I will delete the comment and block your IP. Let’s discuss but also be civil. Thank you.**

October 19, 2009-

Thank you for all the respectful comments and discussion.  It is very evident from the comments that people feel passionately about MJ’s innocence or guilt, depending on what they personally believe.  Many readers provided evidence for both sides, and these added greatly to the discussion.  My intention on this post was to never debate the legal matters and dig up every document ever produced on the case.  It was my opinion, as a mother, on how I felt about MJ’s behavior with children.  It seems more and more people are becoming very hostile, rude, and disrespectful when offering their opinion, and since I have less and less time to monitor the comments closely, I have decided to close the comments on this post.  I thank everyone again for the civil discussion.

Heather

125 replies on “Michael Jackson- Victim or Victimizer?”

I usually dont reply or comment on others peoples opinions BUT you have your facts wrong . Please dont try to humiliate people in public if you dont even take time to list the correct facts that are public knowledge and public records. You sound like a silly, fast judging person who DOES judge first and ask questions later.

I came across this blog while watching some of the mj memorial coverage. I like so many poeple have grown up with mj. I was a fan from his Jackson 5 years and through out the eighties. I wouldn’t call myself a huge fan, but i do own Off the Wall, Thriller, and I think his best Bad. After that album I did not really pay too much attention to him after that. He was off my radar for at least the past 15 years. I suppose I did not want to have to look at what he had done to his face(always thought he was such a cute guy when he was younger. When the abuse charges started cropping up I was surprised but not shocked. I always thought he was asexual. That whatever sexual energy he had it was brought out through his performances, which I always enjoyed. I suppose I wrote him off for being a freak. He did do freaky things. On the other hand I mourn the younger MJ before his demons got to him. I always thought of him as having a restless soul. Most restless souls have a driving force to succeed in whatever they do. I believe he is being judged right now for whatever wrongs he may have done in his life. Was he a victim or a monster? I really do not know. I do know that I feel very sad about his death and don’t understand why. I also feel sad for who ever he may have hurt during his lifetime. I just hope he will rest in peace.

RIGHT…… the answer was for me?
if yes what do you think you are…you and only you are silly…I have my opinion…whats the problem? public knowledge???? c’mon – hype knowledge!!!! Michael Jackson R.I.P now and nothing…nothing can change it… WELL ONE MORE THING FOR YA…..
“Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds” and leave MJ in peace….if u “usually dont reply or comment on others peoples opinions”..do me favor dont reply..cuz the other time I will not be so polite..this is b******t respect my opinion plz…

It is interesting to me how some people can compare MJ to OJ. What exactly do these two have in common except for their race? I find it insulting that people would even say their names in the same sentence. MJ was a musical genius who was a great humanitarian. OJ Simpson played football, big woop! I am saddened to see that no matter how far we think we have come as a people, statements like some of the ones above set us back 40 years. If you want to compare OJ to someone, compare him to Robert Blake or Phil Specter! And let me be very clear….I don’t like to speak for a whole race, but I feel confident as an african american saying, we don’t give a sh*t about OJ Simpson, and we are just as afraid of him as you guys. Please do not compare him to Michael Jackson!

I was not using race comparing OJ to Michael Jackson because they are African American- I was using to compare how OJ was found not guilty, even though many thought he was. Just like there are some that think MJ was guilty of child molestation even though he was found not guilty.

Race in my mind has nothing to do with it. This post was not about race. There are white people that get off for crimes as well too, even though many think they are guilty. Phil Spector was found guilty of murder, so that wouldn’t have been a relevant example to use. https://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/14/us/14spector.html

In the end, no one really knows what happened with MJ and the children- I think it was odd, and that he should have known better- especially after being accused once of it. If you don’t share that opinion with me fine-feel free to leave your thoughts.

I don’t allow swearing or profanity on my blog and if you leave profanity in your comments I will delete the comment and block your IP.

Let’s discuss but also be civil. Thank you.

I also did not use OJ as a reference because of his race. I just thought that it was interesting in looking at the “evidence” after the MJ trial that there was none. With OJ, all of the really damaging evidence was suppressed because of the unlawful search conducted by the LAPD. In MJ’s case, the PD had a search warrant and conducted an extensive lawful search, but found nothing.

I am a mother of 4 kids and I hear the maternal instinct in this post advocating for the alleged child victims. But I don’t see any maternal compassion for the child victim that was Michael Jackson. Thrust into celebrity at age 5 with probably a full spectrum of “wierd” adults surrounding him. Who knows his real story. I tend to think he was naiive and yes trying to re-live his childhood through other children. But I don’t know if he actually molested kids himself. I do know for sure that he was a victim, indeed a child victim. I hope his tormented soul is finally at peace.

You can research the allegation against Mr. Jackson as well as the information on the trial. We also have to admit Michael Jackson never made the best life choices because let’s face it, he did not live a ‘normal’ life in a normal word. His vision of the world was vastly different from yours and mine. This is evident by his life style. In 1993, Jordan Chandler told a psychiatrist and police that he and Jackson had engaged in sexual acts that included oral sex, the boy gave detailed description of Jackson’s genitals. The case was settled out of court for a reported $22 million. According to his publicist Michael just wanted this to go away, even though he proclaimed his innocence. However, in the court of public opinion, he became a very guilty child molester.

Here this interesting part that just never sank to his recent accusers. Perhaps they missed this part. Recently Jordan confessed that the molestation NEVER HAPPENED. “I never meant to lie and destroy Michael Jackson but my father made me to tell only lies. Now I can’t tell Michael how much I’m sorry and if he will forgive me.” Evan Chandler, his father was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, “If I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever…”

As for the other alligations…only time will tell

Why are people trying to act like people comparing O.J. and M.J. is racial. It has nothing to do with race, they just happened to be black. Those of us that make the reference, are referring to innocent verdicts when it clearly should have been guilty verdicts. Men that declined into a form of insanity in their latter years, men that no matter what the obvious facts were–they were still worshipped and held above reproach. There is a video in which MJ does the sign of the cross and then grabs his groin. That right there should tell you what he felt about the church. It is so sad to see a whole world blinded by evil, because it could dance and sing, never mind the drug abuse, hedonistic lifestyle and boys in the bed. This is a sad day in the world when we can’t find better role-models in our world.

Mama’s blog! You go girl–you keep it real, factual and on point. You try to be fair and impartial. Lets here it for us mamas. My three sons are grown now, but it is all about the children and making the world a safer, better place for them to thrive in; it is up to we mothers to be the voice of reason. Keep up the good work!

Parmilla,

The Golden Rule is do unto others as you want it done to you. Not do to others what has been done to you. I do agree the MJ has some unsavory things happen to him in his youth. That would explain his oddness and sexual perversions. However, he found Doctors when he needed his drugs refilled, he should have reached out to those same MDs to address his mental health issues. He had all the money in the world to get the best medical treatments offered. If you or I destroy our body with bad plastic surgery, abuse drugs, strave ourselves and run around talking about we are like a Peter Pan we are going straight to the mental hospital. If families and societies would hold our “stars” to this same standard they wouldn’t be killing themselves left and right.

Let’s just remember that we all know that Michael Jackson invited boys to sleep in his room because Michael Jackson told us on national television that he did. This was not uncovered by the police or revealed by the accusers but by MJ himself. Do you really think that a pedophile would do that?

For anyone who says that they don’t understand why he settled in 1993, I ask you, what did he gain? The whole world already knew about the allegations. The whole world knew that Jordie Chandler had supposedly described the appearance of MJ’s penis. Jordie Chandler or his father could have gone to the police and after a criminal trial, commence a civil lawsuit as was done against OJ.

He was branded a child molester from 1993 on.

I ask just one person to explain to me what he gained by settling.

He admitted this on TV because it was public knowledge, and he was trying to make it seem innocent and pure. He gained his freedom from a court trail by settling out-of-court.(with a couple of different cases). Insurance companies settle when their insuredsl are guilty, or they have a good chance of losing in a court battle. They want to do damage control by settling for less than a jury trial might award. Money and fame bought MJ an acquittal. In the end his deeds tore him up from the inside out and he slowly destroyed himself.

Lovely

You don’t sound like an attorney to me. I am an attorney and have represented clients through their insurers for over ten years. You are just wrong to speculate what insurance companies do and don’t do for their own business interests. MJ was not you or I, people who would get an attorney for $150/hour. He was a superstar who would have had a team of $600/hour attorneys. Twenty million dollars is nothing to an insurance company under those circumstances.

Most importantly, you have failed to answer my very simple question: what did he gain? What did he gain?

I never said I was an Attorney. But kudos to you if you are. I have 10 years of experience working in the insurance industry. He gained not having to go to court, hushing up the incident, and trying to salvage his image. That is what he gained.

Oh, he also gained the police pictures that showed the spots on his penis that the child described kept hidden. He did not want all the evidence to come out in discovery and during a trial. Ms. Lisa, that sounds like a win, win for him. He also settled with his maid for approx. 2 million for moletsing her son. Wow, he sure found hisself in the same situation over, and over again. How did that happen?

Read the Vanity Fair articles about MJ. The magazine talked to many families that turned over their children to MJ, and then they were abused. The magazine said that none of MJ lawyers have disputed their story.

Anyone who makes an accusation that an adult has fondled a child without evidence or witnesses should place themselves in the same situation.

Lets suppose that the neighbor girl has accused your husband of touching her inappropriately, he is then arrested and charged…taken to trial and found not guilty. Is he now a pedophile?

So get real, in America, guilt has to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. No amount of money can change that…PERIOD!

And another thing to consider…the families who were suing MJ for sexual abuse would not have settled out of court for 22m if MJ really was guilty.

In summary, if my child was molested by someone of his stature, no amount of money would allow me to settle out of court as I would want him to be found guilty rather than avoid the verdict altogether by accepting a cash settlement.

But alas, losers seem to find a way to take advantage of someone who has the generosity that MJ had towards children by ruining the one thing he tried to re-create…his own childhood.

First of all, only a nut would try to recreate something that can never be recaptured. All of that nonesense was just a lore for children. Every pedophile buys toys, games, puppies, etc. MJ just did it on a grand scale because he had money. Every parent is not decent (as we see in the world) some people would sell their children for money–as we see in Debbie Rowe and the “surragate mother” of Michael’s children. They were all bought and paid for. The parents of MJ ‘s victims were usually unstable (the better to manipulate them and seduce their youngsters). If one person accused a person, that is different. If many people are saying the same thing and accurately describing your private body parts, well, that is a whole different story. A sane person would have stopped putting themself in the same position the first time. A sick person is driven by their strange lusts, and they are out-of- control. Couple that with drug abuse and alcohol and children get hurt and sexually abused. IF the general public would stop financially supporting celebrities, and make them pay for their crimes and live in truth they wouldn’t be destroying their lives, and the lives of others. Michael WAS a victim–he was a victim of fame, and this sick nation that accepted him despite his perversions. Jail would have gotten him clean, and maybe he would have changed, once he realized that he was no more special than the rest of us. In the end he learned that lesson the hard way.

@Lovely:
You seem really angry in that last post, what happened? You tried to stay “fair and balanced” for a while but you fell back on the “I hated MJ and he got what he deserved” bandwagon. That’s a shame.

Lovely, you’re again misstating the facts and relying upon media speculation. Jordie Chandler very clearly said that Michael Jackson had been circumcised. Michael Jackson was not circumcised. That would be an impossible mistake to make had Jordie Chandler really viewed MJ’s penis.

You may recall that upon hearing this, little Amy Fisher sitting in a jail cell said that she could identify Joey Buttafocco’s penis. Shortly after, Joey Buttafucco went off to jail.

Do you see a difference yet, Lovely?

Manuel, Never said I hated him, I hate what he did. Anyone that takes advantage of a child is a monster, so if my tone is harsh, well there you go. On top of that this nation wants to idolize him like he was a god-like figure, and he was a common or should I say uncommon dope fiend. Lisa, now lets talk about all the other children he molested. I am sure you have a valid excuse for their abuse as well. Oh, lets also talk about him purchasing children, keeping them from their mother (if that is their mother) and slowly poisioning hisself while they were in the house. Wow, Mr. Jackson was just a peach of a man–oops, I mean boy/man, or should I just call him “Peter Pan”. Another thing, what is the story on the maid that got the 2 million for her son being touched. Darn, he sure had the worst luck with children. This happened to poor Mike over and over and over and over again. WOW such a bummer, well it is good it can’t happen anymore.

Manual,

I do think that Michael got what he deserved, and he did it to himself. I believe he had insomnia because he had dirt on his hands, and a guility conscience. He didn’t want to live. He said it best, “I am looking at the man in the mirror, I am asking him to change his ways.” I wish he would have taken his own advice. The world would have been a better place with him here and in his right state of mind.

I have to say that I agree with a lot of Lovely’s reasonings- like I stated in the original post. Why aren’t Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Madonna, Meg Ryan, and other countless celebrities that adopt children having these same issues come up again and again with children?

The only other example that comes to my mind with weird kid/celebrity stuff was Woody Allen marrying one of Mia Farrow’s adopted daughters, Soon Yi Previn. But Woody Allen was 62 and Soon Yi was 27 when they got married- quite a difference-she wasn’t 13. https://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/1997/12/24/1997-12-24_woody_marries_soon-yi_in_ita.html

NO one has a perfect childhood. NO one has perfect parents, and some would even argue that Angelina and Brad Pitt are a bit off. Jolie kept a vile of Billy Bob Thornton’s blood around her neck, and they continue to keep having and adopting children. Yes, people are weird and they do things for reasons we don’t understand.

But for MJ, to me it is odd, like Lovely points out that these child molestation accusations just kept happening to Michael Jackson again and again. Other people with money- celebrities or not who adopt children or hang out with children, just don’t have these allegations continue to happen to them.

Frank Girardot: Michael Jackson’s life not worthy of celebration
Posted: 07/06/2009 03:04:26 PM PDT

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Call me old-fashioned, but I don’t get the whole Michael Jackson adoration thing.
Perhaps the hundreds of thousands of people heading downtown this morning really want to take part in something that has nothing to do with the still-dead King of Pop.

If they are not going to Staples to remember Jackson, they are there to be part of something bigger than life.

It’s not clear.

But why waste an entire day stuck in traffic? Why get pushed around by cops? Why fight sweaty dudes in wife-beaters in what is sure to be a mosh pit outside of Staples Center?

Let’s get something straight. Regardless of how much joy Jackson’s music may have brought to the masses, he was a sicko.

If there’s any proof it probably lies in the multimillion-dollar settlements Jackson reached with purported victims. One of those claimed the singer molested him at age 7 and again at age 10.

That kid’s mother was Jackson’s maid. Jackson reportedly reached a $2.4 million settlement with the family.

In 1993, Jackson paid $20 million to a 13-year-old who claimed the pop star sexually abused him.

The boy’s mother explained later how Jackson begged her to let him sleep with the boy, according to court documents and testimony at trial.

The star and the mom argued about it, but ultimately the boy’s mom gave in and allowed her teen to spend nights in Jackson’s bed.

After the mom relented, Jackson bought her a Cartier bracelet. Clearly, this was a man who thought he could hurt whomever he wanted and do what he wanted because he had the means to buy his way out of trouble.

The boy may have been molested over a six-month period of time after that.

In 2003, police arrested Jackson and charged him with sex crimes against a 13-year-old boy who had cancer.

At his trial in 2005, prosecutors detailed how Jackson showed porn to young boys on the grounds of his Neverland Ranch. They spelled out how he gave the kids wine, which he called “Jesus Juice.”

The state documented how Jackson preyed on the teen cancer survivor and the boy’s family – for his own self-gratification.

The victim, a resident of El Monte, told a jury how Jackson groped and fondled him.

A member of the jury that ultimately acquitted Jackson said later he thought Jackson was a child molester. Another said Jackson should stop sleeping with kids.

If Jackson were any other 46-year- old man in that situation, he’d probably still be in prison fending off predators who take no mercy on pedophiles.

Certainly, he’d be listed on the Megan’s Law Web site once he got out of the joint.

I guarantee if he was the creepy guy living down the street from any one of us, we’d be repulsed and sickened by his behavior.

If anything, Wacko Jacko’s life story should be a cautionary tale about the price of fame and the parents who subject their kids to foul and unspeakable acts.

It’s a story about the danger of prescription drug abuse and the doctors who are nothing more than educated street corner pushers.

It’s an epic filled with details of bad decision-making by a whole host of people – including those making a pilgrimage Downtown on this summer day.

Frank Girardot is metro editor of the San Gabriel Valley Newspaper Group. Read his blog at http://www.insidesocal.com/sgvcrime.

I agree with the points that you make, and could add many other red flags and reasons why he is a pedophile in my mind. Yes he is a fabulous entertainer, but it is all overshadowed by the sinister, deviant aspects of who he is. On another note, it is like two people wrote this piece on your blog…the first few paragraphs are grammatically correct, and towards the end there are many incomplete sentences, run-on sentences and improper punctuation. I’m just saying that it would be far more credible if your well-thought and sensible points of view were properly written and checked using grammar checkers…just a word to the wise!

Heather,

Duh, two people did write those comments. The second one is a cut and paste from a newspaper article. Anyway, for all of you proof-seekers, I have a goldmind for you! Here are the documents of the ACTUAL MJ trial: http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org/docs/ctdocs/060804sdsheet.pdf.
We have such an educationed community on this blog, we have Attorneys and English teachers. I am so impressed.

correction: (Just for Heather) educated. Word of wisdom, settle your stomachs before you read the evidence, it WILL make you sick!

Lovely:

(a) Those are not the real trial transcripts;

(b) You’re still relying upon speculation and media for your information.

(c) Considering Michael Jackson was branded a pedophile after 1993–he gained nothing by the settlement; and

(d) He did not get the 1993 photos back.

WHAT DID HE GAIN, Lovely?

LISA,

You obviously are NOT an Attorney and you are as fake as the LATE Michael Jackson. If you were an Attorney you would Know that those are the real documents. If you go to http://www.sbscpublicaccess.org it will show that it is the OFFICIAL Sheriffs website. Some of the sensitive material is blacked out–just like government documents are when they are submitted for public access. I am sorry that you want to remeber the fantasy that you had of “Peter Pan”. But, the intelligent memebers of the world say this: Glad he can’t hurt another baby. You fans keep saying: Duuh, I like the music, Duuuh man could he moonwalk. I DON’T CARE what he gained, all I care about is that the world gained one less child molestor.

I like how people keep up with the OJ comparison but then failing to mention that OJ LOST a civil suit for wrongful death or that the prosecution was completely inept or the glove issue was nothing more than OJ not taking his arthritis medication that day. Or the photographic evidence that OJ beat the hell out of his ex-wife.

Oh then there’s the issue, years later of that book he wrote called “if I did it”. Finally, tell me, do you think, in a description of a guys penis that whether he was circumcised or not is a big detail to get right or wrong? Because Chandler got it wrong.

Lisa can’t be helped on this blog, because she is in “Neverland”. She is talking about circumcised or uncircumcised. That poor young man that identifed Michaels private area was a frightened child not a doctor. As I mentioned the documents ARE real and they tell the true story. Thank goodness for the free world where we can SEE for ourselves what is true and fabricated by “Peter Pan”.

Speaking of OJ he got convicted for his new trial on the anniversary of his acquittal for the murders of his ex-wife and Ron Goldman. It is good to know that justice happens slowly but surely. Yeahh!!Hip Hip Hooray!

Speaking of loss and gains,peep this. Bible quote: What does it profith a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul. What did he lose Lisa, what did he lose?

NEWS FLASH FOLKS!!

Jordon Chandler never recanted his story. It is a rumur spread by MJ fans and Michael’s dysfunctional family. Read the article @ http://www.examiner.com. And the truth shall set us free.

Michael loved to invite children to Neverland and razzle, dazzle them with all the thrills and excitment. Once they entered into his chambers–the chambers of horrors–they never, never were the same again. He gave them wine and called it “Jesus juice”. This is what Neverland really stood for. He liked to give them weird, strange names to try to dismantle their self-image and to make them conform to what he wanted: A young, innocent, fresh boy-toy. Some of the names he used were: blowhole, boo-boo head, and applehead. Well, I have renamed him, just like he renamed them. Here are some remix words and phrases for the LATE Michael Jackson: Caricature of his former self; I wanna “King of Pop” your sons; Dirty Diana a.****.a. dirty deeds done in he dark; man in the mirror is oh so scary; liar, “I only had 2 surgeries and I would never hurt a child”; sociophathic; over-consumption; body dysmorphic disorder; hate my black self; child rapist; pedophile; idolator; hedonist; insomniac–couldn’t sleep because of all the boys he molested; Peter Pan wanna be; poor me–my childhood was sooo sad, so let me destroy someone elses; perverted; drug addict, and last but not least famous freak. Now how do you like them apples all you “Applehead” stupid **** fans.

While the child molestations were going on the fans said, “duhhh, I like the music; duuuuh, I like music; Duuduuhhh, he can sure moonwalk; duuuh, I like the music. Duuuh, he can sure dance good.”

This is what our society has been reduced to, trying to elevate a man,such as he, to a status he clearly did not deserve or earn. He was a fallen icon, one to be pitied not praised.

Mama’s blog,

Ooops, I said the word that means a donkey. I forgot to edit that one, sorry.

Anyway, the eventual molestation trial was a freak show, with Arvizo’s mother ending up on trial rather than Jackson, a terrible example of jurisprudence in which the prosecution just about proved that Jackson molested seemingly every little boy in Los Angeles except the one in the witness box.
Let us go down the Albert Goldman road for a moment. (And the parallels between Graceland and Neverland are expected and wholly unsurprising: it is what happens when incredible fame, fortune and near-limitless power are bestowed on young men with no real education and no intellectual interests. The pleasures of the inhabitants of the two mansions are near-identical: lying in bed, attended by lackeys, while you indulge your sensory pleasures: food, small boys, whatever.)
Let us picture what was, by all accounts – that of the staff, of the parents and siblings of various young accusers – this grown man’s idea of a good time. We descend into the chilled, darkened bowels of Neverland, passing the Mickey Mouse posters, the discreet alarm systems (rigged to give advance warning of anyone approaching his chambers), we punch in the keypad security code required for access to the inner sanctum and we find the King of Pop: he lies on an enormous bed, numbed by opiates, smudged with wine or bourbon (“Jim Bean” one of the boys called it, a malapropism that might be charming in other circumstances) and surrounded by half-naked pre-pubescent boys.
A laptop is showing pornography, opened bottles of Pinot Noir and SKYY vodka are strewn around. Jackson is watching Disney’s Fantasia over and over again, drifting off up to the ceiling as a wave of the Dilaudid or Demerol hits him. He cuddles the nearest boy. His newest, most special friend. The medical bag in the corner glistens darkly, filled with brown tubs of prescription candy and pre-loaded hypodermics. Man, sweet dreams for the King of Pop.
“Michael,” an ex-adviser claims to have said to him once, “you’re going to wind up in a lot of trouble. Why don’t you stop all this stuff with the young boys?”
“I don’t want to,” Jackson replied.
His answer has the acrid whiff of the dismissiveness of the potentate, the emperor. It reeks of “I like not this news. Bring me some other news.” Finally, thankfully, for Jackson there will be no more news of any kind.
The author is a writer and former A&R (artist and repertoire) man whose novel ‘Kill Your Friends’ tells the murky story of a young record industry executive during the Britpop era.

Hmmmm, let me see a sensationilized book (who wrote it, what were their motives). Or a whole website of the offical legal documents. Ummmmm, I’ll take the documents behind door number 3, please.

Michael Jackson was an incredible humanitarian through so many years. I feel like he truly loved to help children but at the same time he knew he could benefit from it. It gave him the opportunity to be around children. Based on what one reads one can assume that he might have molested kids. I dont believe he molested many kids, but I believe he did have an obsession with kids. This obsession was his downfall.

There have been extensive interviews to find out if he had molested boys he had sleepovers with. Most of the boys said that he never molested them, although there might have been inappropriate behavior. The inappropriate behavior is not fully explained, but it can be considered an explanation on why he did have sleepovers. One of the reasons was that he enjoyed boys’ company to fill his obsession and possibly a void. Even after getting accused several times did not stop him for having sleepovers because that obsession was too strong.

A Mamas Blog, I am praying for your speedy recovery. My heart and prayers are with you and for you. Take them as your strength and be well.

Estrella,

Have you taken the time to look at the evidence list at the Sheriffs’ office. His obssession bordered on straight child sexual abuse, ya think?

A bed represents intimacy for adults. Children view a bedroom as their home and their sleep. Their should never be a reason for a person to always be sharing a bedroom with children. I am quite sad that Michael Jackson had a tragic upbringing and I could feel that when he was with children it was a release. Yet the release was also a mask for supressed feelings he had toward children. For how long can a person excuse their behavior on their childhood. Life teaches us what is inappropriate and what is. But we make a choice wheather we want to follow it. When we dont follow it is because the desire is clearly stronger.

Estrella,

Yes Girl!

BAD Man…

If he would have came out and said anything it would have broken the confidentiality agreement he had to sign to bet paid the millions of dollars he got paid. http://WWW.Examiner.com

I actually think it’s horrible that you would print something like this based on righteous indignation, without bothering to make any research efforts. A quick perusal of even wikipedia trial notes would cancel out a great number of your statements.

Jordan Chandler did NOT describe the genitalia correctly, and the payout was forced by Jackson’s insurance company- he wanted to go to trial. But no trial happened because Chandler refused to testify against him. During the second set of allegations by new greedy parents, Chandler refused again to act as witness to nail Jackson.

Jackson saved Gavin’s life by buying him organ transplant when he had little time to live. The boy’s mother decided to earn a few million like Chandler’s father had after she saw the documentary Living With Michael Jackson. Martin Bashir insinuated that Neverland children were in danger, so she lept on that, hiring the same team as the first family had used.

During raids of all of Jackson’s properties, nothing remotely related to child lust was found. Just a bunch of nudie mags- including Mature, Barely Legal, Plumpers, Over 50, and Club. No, Barely Legal does not feature young boys. It features naked women. Seems Jackson liked the same banal variety as every other man.

Jackson also spent more time on charity work and hospital visits than he did on his entertainment work. So your statement that if he wanted to do something for the children, he should have taken them to Disneyland, is profoundly lacking. He was on the front lines with his time and money. I can happily send an itemized list of a few of his projects- it’s 24 pages long.

No, he couldn’t just take them to Disneyland. Look what happened when he tried to go to the zoo. The man was trampled wherever he went.

What bothers me most is exactly what one commenter mentioned above- no one launched a witchhunt or hounded to death others who were PROVEN child diddlers. Elvis himself courted Priscilla when she was 14! Jerry Lee Lewis married a 13 year old. Gary Glitter- not that anyone cares about him- had 4000 child porn pics in the raid and spent time in jail. R. Kelly ’nuff said. But we’re all “ho hum.”

Let’s face it- we only picked on Jackson because he was different and fragile and strange. Now it comes out that he had lupus and vitiligo and that after the Pepsi burning he went bald and had reconstruction surgery on his scalp and face. No wonder he didn’t want to talk about his surgery “problem.” He just tried to fix things, as his esteem took a beating. He also had lupus and a rare lung disease and so the umbrellas and the face masks had a purpose we had never considered- on bad days, he had to avoid inhaling certain fumes. He had to avoid the sun on his skin. Vitiligo and lupus can both lead to skin cancer, which he had.

With all that physical pain, of course the man took drugs. Once the terror of prison and the humiliation of having pictures taken of your genitalia and the violation of being accused by the parents children whose lives you saved, there’s nowhere to turn but to oblivion. He did his best to prove his innocence but people like you keep saying hateful things without bothering to learn the facts.

The truth is we raped and murdered Michael Jackson. The truth is the real pedophiles don’t look like sci fi fairy tale creatures- they look like our husbands and brothers and ministers. Why not talk about these cases- 10 thousand in the church alone?

Thanks for listening.

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