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Michael Jackson- Victim or Victimizer?

With the passing of Michael Jackson today, one of our generation’s biggest icons, my initial response was sad.

A few minutes later that had passed and I started to think about the child abuse allegations that he had been accused of in the last few years. 

I loved Michael Jackson growing up. I think he had talent.  I think he was an amazing dancer and entertainer and he took “rock star” to a new level.  I still turn the radio up when I hear his songs.  I am not questioning his talent nor his contributions to the entertainment industry, but as a mother his child abuse allegations are extremely disturbing to me.

Michael Jackson was a great singer and a pop icon- I liked his music and my family and I actually met him through a family friend in 1984. 

However, I feel Michael Jackson (MJ) was a *serial* child molester / pedophile, or whatever term you want to use.  

Non-molesters don’t have young boys over to sleep in their beds & then pay out millions to keep it quiet. Michael Jackson befriended young boys, sometimes from disadvantaged backgrounds, and then took them to his ranch, banning their parents.

This is a HUGE red flag.  If MJ loved children so much, why didn’t he befriend them at Disneyland? Take them to public places, have their parents along, or just even go hang out at these children’s homes?

Giving MJ the benefit of the doubt, and assuming he was victimized by these families out to destroy him and get money from him, which is what MJ claimed, he should have never had put himself in a situation like this again after the first allegation. But he did, and he chose to do this- still taking the boys to his private ranch.  

It is interesting how so many other celebrities like Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Madonna, Meg Ryan, Mia Farrow, etc., can have big hearts for children and work with them, and yet none of them have been “victimized” claiming they have been falsely accused of molestation for money.  No child can describe Brad Pitt’s genitalia like one of  Michael Jackson’s alleged abuser could. I don’t consider Michael Jackson bigger than “Brangelina”, and there have been no claims of inappropriate sleep overs from the Jolie-Pitt house.  So I don’t buy into the money claim.  

The FACTS are MJ was arrested once and accused twice of child molestation.  He settled out of court once, and found not guilty once. Both times the details have been sealed, and millions of dollars were paid out.  If he had nothing to hide, why not let the facts get out there to clear his name? Celebrities get accused of false things all the time, but very few of them get arrested, and hide the details-twice.

The case would never have gone to trial without sufficient evidence in the 2005 case, where Michael and the boy were discovered sleeping in bed together. How many other celebrities are having sleep overs with minor children in their houses with doors locked, and parents banned?

How many just normal parents have sleepovers like this with their children’s friends?    I can imagine the outrage if a Boy Scout leader was found sleeping in his tent with boy scouts on on an overnight camping trip.  Parents and the public would be outraged-as we should be.  But since this is MJ and he could do the moon-walk, these facts are pushed to the background-suddenly a 40 year old man who has 13 year old boys sleep with him in bed, doesn’t matter.   

I view this like OJ Simpson. He never got convicted and was found not guilty either of killing his wife and Ron Goldman, but he had a lot of money, and was able to create doubt. Even if he could run with a football.  Are there any people out there ten plus years later that don’t think OJ had something to do with the murders of his wife and her friend?  Even though the jury said he didn’t?   

I don’t care what talent in life you have- if you put yourself in compromising positions when you are under a spotlight, especially with minor children, you create suspicion on yourself.  You have to be even more careful.     If they ever release the evidence and the facts of the cases about these boys and Michel Jackson comes to light that he was completely innocent, I will be the first to apologize for doubting Mr. Jackson’s innocence.  

Michael Jackson’s family has my sympathy- no family should have to lose a loved one, but I am more sorry for the families of MJ’s victims and the position these young boys were put in by an ADULT man who should have known better not to have young boys locked in his bedroom sleeping in the same bed with him. Some things in life, you just don’t get to do- and this is one of them.   

I don’t care if you can throw a football, raise money for children in Africa, run with a football, dance, sing, or are the greatest entertainer in the world.  Putting yourself in compromising positions over and over again with young children, that raises a question of inappropriate behavior with them is wrong.  No matter who you are.   

There is no free pass for taking advantage and molesting children. Don’t take them in your bed to sleep with them.  Don’t lock the door to the bedroom, and don’t ban the parents.  Seems pretty simple to me.  We all make mistakes, and no one is perfect. How could MJ NOT have known or had not been advised to do this-  but he chose to do it anyway.   

The world lost a great entertainer, but his victims have lost their innocence too.  They will never get that back.  Victimizing the most vulnerable in our society is unforgivable, and I for one, can’t help but feel somewhat relieved that there is one less person putting innocent children in compromising situations.

Note: for more information, read The Smoking Gun: The Case Against Michael Jackson: https://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/010605jackson.html

**NOTE: If you don’t share my opinion with me fine-feel free to leave your thoughts.  I don’t allow swearing or profanity on my blog and if you leave profanity in your comments I will delete the comment and block your IP. Let’s discuss but also be civil. Thank you.**

October 19, 2009-

Thank you for all the respectful comments and discussion.  It is very evident from the comments that people feel passionately about MJ’s innocence or guilt, depending on what they personally believe.  Many readers provided evidence for both sides, and these added greatly to the discussion.  My intention on this post was to never debate the legal matters and dig up every document ever produced on the case.  It was my opinion, as a mother, on how I felt about MJ’s behavior with children.  It seems more and more people are becoming very hostile, rude, and disrespectful when offering their opinion, and since I have less and less time to monitor the comments closely, I have decided to close the comments on this post.  I thank everyone again for the civil discussion.

Heather

125 replies on “Michael Jackson- Victim or Victimizer?”

FINALLY! Its so nice to read your point of view. I agree completely! All I’ve heard all day is how sad everyone is. I simply am not.

Hearing all these people saying how wonderful he was, the icon, on a par with Elvis etc. is annoying. I am convinced he was a pedo who had the money to create an illusion to support his mindset. If he had been a regular guy down your road you would be keeping a close eye on your kids.
It seems to me that he was a deviant who was blessed with pure talent, he capitalised on this to feed his obsessions and fancies like his looks, what a mess up, Neverland what a smokescreen, his millions what a ledger, family life…Well, let’s not start mocking the dead.
When I last saw Michael Jackson performing he seemed unable to sing a note, he just pointed the microphone at the crowd, the pathetic crowd went along like they always do, yeh..I thought.. God gave it to you and now he’s taken it away.
The news is that he was on tranquilizers, pain relief and anti-depressants!…The two biggest killers are EGO and GREED and I bet they figure in this story line too, they’re usually in there somewhere.
If you ask me he was a let-down of a “super star”, I’ll always remember the weird sound when he talked. Everything about him seemed false.

I do agree with you. I think he was an enormous musical talent, but his personal demons took over and ate away at his entire life and those whom he victimized. I am watching bits of the coverage and just thought, “I wonder what his victims are thinking?” They probably have had to just turn the television off to avoid all of the “news.”

There are a lot of facts about Mr. Jackson that may surprise you.

Read the legal cases and study the evidence and facts about him before you make a conclusion.

For example, I think plastic surgery is for weirdos, but it is clear that his plastic surgery was bought to manage skin diseases that he possessed. Seems reasonable.

I am against unnatural relationships between adults and children, but Neverland was built as a place for him to live the childhood he never had -having been repeatedly beaten by his father (who had been a boxer) while on tours. No evidence was found by any investigator of the property of anything at all involving pedophilia or homosexuality. That is interesting considering the accusations and considering the essence of the Neverland Ranch.

Also, consider the MOTHER of the first accuser sided with Jackson, and it came out 3 years later that the accuser’s father (later sued by the son as abusive) induced the statement of alleged misconduct from his son using drug-like chemicals. Consider that another accuser admitted his accusation was false to a school official, two other accusers recounted an accusation with contradicting details, and that Mr. Culkin, on site for a long time said that everything was completely false. Lastly, there is publicly available evidence showing that the accusers implicitly remarked they were “out for the money.” These people have not suffered psychological harm evident in other victims of abuse.

Obviously celebrities get away with things that non-celebrities cannot–however there are a lot of facts about Mr. Jackson that have been distorted.

Michael Jackson was not a pedophile. He changed childrens lives. He took these kids to Disneyland and everything else. But that obviously wasnt good enough for the two mothers who brought up false accusations against him. He was acquitted! I strongly believe that if Michael Jackson hadnt had all that plasic surgery (and looked like a “weirdo”) none of that ever would have happened. Look at R Kelly… total pedophile… and nothing was said about what he did, over and over again. I feel that Michael Jackson had a horrible childhood. BUT! He really did make the world a better place… and he will truly truly be missed.

I believe Michael Jackson was the Victim of greed and grifters. He was an incredible talent and a very odd duck. He was a shrewd business man (owning a major portion of the Beatles catalogue etc) and a very naive, child like person.He was different. Very different and that makes people very uncomfortable. But he loved children and may very well have wanted to live vicariously through them. I find his behavior strange but is that a reason to believe the very worst charge that can be levied against another human being? He gave millions of dollars to children’s causes. He met the second boy because the boy was supposedly dying with terminal cancer (he is still very much alive and living in Atlanta) and MJ paid all the hospital bills. These people were, are, grifters. Last November the mother was charged with Welfare Fraud. Unfortunately for Michael Jackson, he made some very bad choices in his personal life and the people he trusted. These choices carried over until his death. RIP, Michael Jackson. May you finally have the Peace on the Other Side that you were never able to find here.

i too loved him as a child back in 1985 then i became a mum.his misic was good but he was no saint.its about time people realised that

To Sarah, who said Jackson was a “shrewd businessman”, I’m afraid that was a misguided statement. A ‘shrewd businessman’ would not overspent by $20-30m dollars a year (as stated by his former accountant) and would not have suffered debts of over $300 million.

I’m really not sad to see him go… I firmly believe in karma and that MJ got exactly what he deserved in the end.

What exactly did Michael get that he deserved? Death? We’re all going to get that if Jesus delays his coming? None of us really know if MJ molested those boys. We only know what’s put in the media. It’s sad how we’re always ready to believe the worst in somebody. I guess its our human nature – sin nature. I pray that before we stand ready to accuse anyone we take a good look at the man in the mirror.

Personally, the way Michael Jackson looked, has no bearing on how I feel about this.

He had every right to build a ranch for himself- but he did not have the right to have children stay in his bed with him naked.

There is a lot of information and evidence from the 2005 case that leads me to believe his intent was not pure towards children. The BBC reported during the trial the judge blocked porn pictures that had been found on MJ’s computer because it wasn’t during the time frame of the case, but there were hundreds of pictures, mostly of teenagers. https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4376959.stm

Of course we don’t know if MJ was looking at all of these hundreds of pictures or not, but again- if his intentions were so pure, he would have never put himself or these children in situations like this that would call his motives into question. If MJ’s motives were so pure, he would have been the first to understand this.

Why would he ever risk his reputation and disappoint so many fans by these doubts of molestation HE created? He brought the boys to his ranch and banned their parents. He locked the door to the bedroom and slept naked with the boys.

No one can say for sure what happened, but to me this isn’t an idol- someone who should be remembered as loving children. I don’t feel grown adults who love children put them in compromising situations like Michael Jackson did.

Michael Jackson was a grown man, who made very unwise decisions involving children, that will haunt his reputation forever.

This isn’t about people wanting to believe the worst about him, but especially in this case, actions speak louder than words. Michael Jackson’s actions towards children speak loud and clear.

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I am very sad about the news of his passing.
The first thing I thought, since the internet news said he had some cardiac arrest, he had too much and so much going on that is badly affecting him inside (and probably outside). And he had to take it all on him. Can you imagine all that stress and stretch it over the years… Even if from the start of his stress, let’s try to assume he was taking medications, those things HAVE SIDE EFFECTS.

Nobody’s perfect. Mike’s not perfect – I can say that in the POV in his personal life (marriage). And also, from the POV of his ‘surgeries’. To me, surgeries weren’t necessary for him (hate the nose, Mike, why you have to do it) – if it wasn’t for medical reasons.
I HONESTLY don’t know all the details regarding the pedo case of MJ but I STRONGLY don’t believe that Michael’s a pedo. I think those accusers are just in for the money.
And of course the media. The MEDIA would LOVE TO SELL out such a NEWS and a LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD JUST BELIEVE WHAT is SAID BY THE MEDIA – whether true or not. You can easily be falsely accused of being a BAD person and be surprise that whenever you’re out on the street, people will throw rocks at you.

There’s a lot to love about Michael. There’s just something about him that although you never seen him in concerts or bought an album of his, something (for some people like me perhaps) like a part of them died when Michael passed on.

Michael is a victim. Sometimes, what you see outside is a reflection of the inside. I HONESTLY hate the weird NOSE, I think that’s one good evidence that something’s going on inside but Michael just never told anyone about it. Took it all in, affected his physical health over the years, and died.

Wow…this country just lost one of the most talented musicians we will see in our lifetime and as opposed to celebrating his life and legacy many are choosing to dwell on the darkest times of his life. I for one do not believe any of the allegations. If I thought for one moment that any of the allegations were true I would never have sent a child of mine to his home – for anything – sick or not. I believe this man was an easy target and unfortunately this was his downfall. As are millions of fans, I am choosing to remember him for the 35+ years of magnificence that was Michael Jackson. That can never be taken away from him. For those of you who choose not….what a shame.

Michael is strange but *NOT GUILTY* of child molestation. Please watch this and learn the truth about Michael in his own words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvhwWDCV9Bo

The first allegation was from a family that REFUSED to press charges, would only accept money. Michael is definitely a target, given his proximity to kids. So are teachers, by the way, and many INNOCENT teachers have had their careers destroyed by kids/parents with a personal vendetta. I have witnessed this.

The second allegation came after journalist Martin Bashir cast suspicion on Michael, in his documentary which they are replaying after Michael’s death. PLEASE WATCH THE VIDEO,from Michael’s own cameras, during the making of the Bashir video. Bashir blatantly omits portions of Michael’s interview, making him look like a criminal. If you want to know the truth, please watch at youtube, it’s in several parts-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvhwWDCV9Bo

seriously? what is WRONG with you people? the man’s dead, and you’re all pissed that we’re not talking about how he touched on little kids and gave them alcohol???the reason why nobody’s bringing that up is because death is supposed to be looked at from a good perspective. and michael jackson changed so much for african americans and much more. so he went down a bad road, but we’re all not perfect. and NONE of you can prove that he is a child molester. so stop. he IS an icon and will be remembered by the way he reached out to people &- gave them hope and joy. so im so sorry to burst your bubble by not talking about him like he’s a sicko. why can’t we just remember him &- celebrate what he left behind?

Romans 6:7) . . .For he who has died has been acquitted from [his] sin.

Let it go people! No one has lived the life of Michael Jackson – NO ONE. Elvis, Sinatra, Marlon Monroe, The Beatles they all had childhoods. Michael Jackson never matured past the age of 12 (if that)and should have received help way back then – but nobody was concerned about that. He was a young sensation a money maker. Where were the Nancy Graces and Gloria Allreds advocating for child rights and protection?

The man child never experienced true happiness or any sort of normalcy so why should be expect him to be normal.

I’m the parent of an adult son and I would have never allowed my son to spend the night with any man or man child. The parents are just as responsible for the inappropriate behavior.

Michael Jackson was a grown man, who made very unwise decisions involving children, that will haunt his reputation forever.

This isn’t about people wanting to believe the worst about him, but especially in this case, actions speak louder than words. Michael Jackson’s actions towards children speak loud and clear.

It’s obvious that the media doesn’t want to focus on all aspects of MJ’s life. That’s all I have seen on the news was about his life through fame. I’m tired of hearing about him.

Michael Jackson was a pedophile and an entertainer. He was very talented in his younger years but his career as he became older wasn’t that impressive to me.

For those that claim…”He didn’t have a childhood” as an excuse as to why he acted like a child during the allegations of sexual misconduct with children….Please.
A pedophile acts like a child in order to gain the trust and sympathy of a child.

If you are going to glorify someone then could it at least be someone worthy?

it is so sad that people focus there thoughts accusation against micheal jackson. He gave so much to people. People used his accusations to make a great man a monster. let god be the judge its in his hands no

You “perfect” people take your minds out of the gutter and stop acting like judgemental puritans. Every culture of social economic background brings inherent differences to situations that may be perceived as abnormal to some, but are not out of the ordinary to others. I came from an impoverished family. With a sainted single mother who worked two jobs,she had been abandoned by our dad and we grew up in a two bedroom house, my mom rented out one room and we all slept with her in another. I know this to be true from experience, that not all of us grew up in middle class families with big lawns and a bedroom for each sibling. Later in life I still don’t see it as taboo. Michael grew up with seven siblings in a tiny 2bd home, prior to fame and fortune and probably never thought twice about having sleepovers, especially when the consenting parents were in the same house on most of these sleepovers. Why did he not go to Disney with them instead? Well I guess you have never been famous. McCauly Kaulkin had sleep overs and said, there were never any impoprieties by Michael, he just played games and sang songs and performed for them. Although attorneys tried to get him to testify(lie)against him. We are in a society where greed and lies are linked hand in hand. I read today that the child who had brought the accusations stated he had lied and had been coerced along with other witnesses. Some people will lie for 100 bucks, 20 million will bring out the worst of people. Although we should protect children, not all cases are true. Michael was a passive,generous and charitable human being. He was non-confrontational and it was in his nature to want to just give these people the money. Not out of guilt but because he was a vulnerable and scared (child like) person. Let us stop throwing stones. Hopefully you will never (God willing) be accused wrongly of any crime. Now about the testimony on the genital, who knows maybe perceiving a law suit in the works, he was spied on. In any case being a libra, I have been born with this strong sense of justice and have had intuitive feelings about people and this case has always made me feel uneasy. I really detest mob mentalities and witch hunts. Please people be a little more open minded and stop being so darn critical. Did you ever ask yourself this question why did the buck stop at the money, where were the criminal charges or outrage. It wasn’t hush money, because as a parent no money would shut me up if I believed my child was abused!

So now what? MJ paid the kid $22 mil and the kids fam came forward saying they lied bc they WERE POOR!!!! Are you serious? This family ruined Mikes life, reputation, etc. Will there be repercusions? Should there be? Is it a hoax?
I have not seen this on CNN.

People really need to read about the cases before casting their judgments. The father of the first accuser had Michael prepare a wing in his mansion for him and his family to move into. He was tape recorded,and this recording was played in court,talking about how he basically wanted to ruin Michael’s career and how he could gain anything he wanted by doing so.What loving, caring,parent would accept money from a pedophile who molested their kid? Any real parent would fight to see that pig rot in prison.The second accuser’s mother had a history of welfare fraud and also on coaching her kids to lie on her behalf. In an incident at a JC Penny’s where her kids were caught stealing, she accused the store’s security of beating her and sexually harrassing her,and of course she had her kids lie to back her up.These topics were all brought up when she was cross examined.She pled the fifth to welfare fraud as well. Before the trial even came about though, she ran to the lawyer of the first victim to file a civil suit against MJ..why would a parent run to the same lawyer who got the first accuser money in a civil trial instead of going to someone who could help convict the alleged pedophile? It doesnt make any sense.I cant say I know MJ is innocent of ever touching a child but as far as those two cases go, if you go to TheSmokingGun.com, and read the documents and the testimony you’ll see that those parents were nothing but rats and roaches.

MJ was a great entertainer and he was an American icon. However, he didn’t live a decent life and he was very mentally ill. This world is so “celebmerized” that a famous person can and have gotten away with murder. MJ ‘s life needs to be looked at in proper perspective. He made great contributions to this nation, but if the chid molestation accusations are true he did great harm. Mother Teresa needs to be glorified and sacantified, not Mr. Jackson. I hope God heals his wounded soul.

I researched Roman 6:7 and my study bible says that you are free from sin because you are no loner in the flesh and dealing with fleshly issues. It also says that being acquitted from sin is referring to legal proceedings. Let no man think you could do dirt and harm and go to God and not have to review your live’s deeds-good deeds and bad. The Bible says that you have to pay for the deeds done in the Bible.

Ok, long post ahead, it just kills me to read this kind of ignorant and hate-filled articles. The woman who writes these is an absolute idiot. The parts that bothered me the most are:

Non-molesters don’t have young boys over to sleep in their beds…
(It’s your mind that’s in the gutter. Dr. Stan Katz, the psychiatrist appointed by the accusers, concluded that Jackson had become a regressed 10-year-old and did not fit the profile of a pedophile)

Michael Jackson befriended young boys, sometimes from disadvantaged backgrounds, and then took them to his ranch…
(He took children of all backgrounds, even famous ones like that Macaulay kid. Was he supposed to take only rich kids?)

Banning their parents.
(NOT TRUE. There were no reports on any banning and some parents even claimed they never left their kids alone with MJ. There was no locking either, like you say in another part)

If MJ loved children so much, why didn’t he befriend them at Disneyland?
(Because he’s Michael freakin Jackson! He can’t go anywhere without it becoming a media circus. That’s the reason he has his own Disneyland in the first place)

Giving MJ the benefit of the doubt, and assuming he was victimized by these families out to destroy him and get money from him, which is what MJ claimed…
(The family had a long history of attempting to extort celebrities)

No child can describe Brad Pitt’s genitalia like one of Michael Jackson’s alleged abuser could.
(The description didn’t match)

The FACTS are MJ was arrested once and accused twice of child molestation. He settled out of court once, and found not guilty once.
(NOT GUILTY. What does that tell you?)

If he had nothing to hide, why not let the facts get out there to clear his name? Celebrities get accused of false things all the time, but very few of them get arrested, and hide the details-twice.
(NOT TRUE. Big companies and celebrities settle out of court ALL THE TIME, and they often get arrested. And actually, he didn’t hide the details the second time, he went through with the trail and WON, even if it killed him)

The case would never have gone to trial without sufficient evidence in the 2005 case, where Michael and the boy were discovered naked in bed together.
(NOT TRUE. Nobody found anyone sleeping naked. Do you have any sources for any of the things you says?)

I view this like OJ Simpson.
(I’m guessing you are a white woman)

If they ever release the evidence and the facts of the cases about these boys and Michel Jackson comes to light that he was completely innocent, I will be the first to apologize for doubting Mr. Jackson’s innocence.
(The facts and the evidence exists, you just didn’t bother to read them)

Manuel,

We get it your a fan of MJ. I hope you don’t consider this a “hate-filled” article. I don’t mean to have that spirit, I am just trying to look at buth sides of the situation. I also beleive in giving credit when it is due and earned. Michael the entertainer was great, Michael the man… You ommited to say that 2 of the jurors in his trial later changed their opinions and said they believed he was guilty. They just didn’t have the courage to come up against the other jurors, and the millions of die-hard fans that they would have encountered on a daily basis. Brad and Angie, Oprah, Madonna, and many other “stars” love and help children. But no one is accussing them of child rape. Why did MJ get “accussed” not once but twice. Common sense would have told him to change his behaviour the first time, right? You need to read the Smoking Gun story. MJ fans need to keep it real!! Love the man’s legacy as an artist, but admit he was sick and had some deep-seated issues. P.S. I am not a white woman, I am black!!!

well I AM a white woman, as white as a cloud, and I LOVED Michael Jackson. I grew up with his music, my dance troupe as a pre-teen teenager ..my dance teacher would have us warm up to his music all the time. I am heartbroken that people cannot just trust their instincts that he was a good man, and have to believe all this horrible stuff and that people are basically just dancing on his grave. well I’m happy to say that where he is, he finally doesn’t care and it finally doesn’t break his good heart anymore.

I actually have a theory that Michael was a victim of sexual abuse himself while a child. I bet a lot of psychologists may have had this theory based on things about his life. However, although being a victim of sexual abuse can be one of several factors that can lead to being an abuser, most victims never become perpetrators.

I know all this because I have done a lot of research. I started having nightmares about my dad a few years ago. Then my dad started saying “weird” things at dinner, he is mentally ill, but he has many times mentioned things about children and sex…sometimes very subtle like the other night he brought up the move “the professional” with Natalie portman when she was young and borderline pedophlic themed movie. the rest of my family thinks I’m crazy but it happens again and again that he brings up things like this that seem to have no bearing on the conversation…we were talking about a totally unrelated movie….almost like he is giving us hints.

If y ou don’t believe in repressed/recovered memories, then just stop reading here. Actually I still have had no actual memories and don’t know if I ever will, just horrible dreams every once in a while.

well my dad is a computer geek, fairly smart works for the government. He is a pretty boring guy, not a lot of friends, but no one would ever suspect him of being a pedophile because he is so bland and “normal”.

well my dad is not obsessed with childhood and doesn’t lure children with candy. he doesn’t have a single toy except maybe a couple special ones he saved from his own childhood in a box somewhere in the basement for keep’s sake. he has adult guy toys, historical fiction books, iphone like most american men do these days, especially geeks .star trek. he is a trekky. google “star trek pedophiles”…it may sound bizarre but these are real possibilities of commonalities of pedophiles. I think that the old luring kids with lost puppies thing and a grown man being obsessed with toys and childhood thing is outdated, and may not be all that accurate psychology wise…although I am sure it is still true for some pedophiles.

but that is not to say a man who had a very pressure filled childhood, who possibly was abused himself, could not be obsessed with childhood, perhaps in an unhealthy way but it not have anything to do with sexuality or taking advantage of innocent children in such a predatory way…sex and power ..hunting. both are part of pedophilia. as much as we don’t like to admit it actually has to do with sexual desire for some people, it does..but it’s true it also has to do with power and preying on someone weaker than themselves. I don’t think either of these things applied to Michael.

…I don’t want to ever ever say that it is impossible that Michael did these horrible things he was accused of..because my family hasn’t believed me, and just in case, I don’t want to ever be one to say that something some child said happened didn’t happen and to make them powerless like I have been…especially when I was only a fan like many others and of course I never met Michael in person. I also don’t want to ever be a part of a society that doesn’t listen to kids because even though I don’t believe Michael ever did these things, it’s quite possible another celebrity case could come up someday in which the person really was guilty, and precedents are set even outside of a courtroom in the way our society handles these things…not just for celebrities but for every case where a child was wronged.

That said, in my heart I just don’t believe that michael did those things. and it’s not just because i don’t want to let go of the music.

Based on the Smoking Gun Story: The Case Against Michael Jackson: https://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/010605jackson.html,

I have edited the original post from Michael Jackson sleeping naked in bed with boys to sleeping with them in the same bed. This was an oversight on my part, and I can’t seem to find any claims from the police that MJ slept naked with boys, but there is plenty of claims that he did share his bed with young boys.

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I married a pedophile. My so-called husband perped on his ( our ) own children! I also cried when I realized MJ died. then, i honestly didn’t know how to feel! Personally, I would like THE TRUTH! I DO NOT CARE WHO YOU ARE! NEVER MESS WITH A MOTHER,S CUBBS! If Michael Jackson is INNOCENT then I would actually consider him as a SAINT! So, I do believe…
THIS MATTERS!!!!!!!!!

I don’t consider myself a MJ fan, but I have enjoyed his music over the last thirty eight years. When he was accused of pedophilia and admited to having boys sleep in his bed, I tuned out. I did not listen to the “evidence” and wrote him off. I am ashamed to say that I gave O.J. the benefit of the doubt. However, once Michael Jackson died, i actually looked at the “evidence” and was stunned to realize that the “evidence” was purely testimonial–he said-she said. There was no physical evidence. It’s amazing that the LA prosecutors didn’t dump the 2005 case at the outset. I think that they had to pursue it because people were weirded out by his public admission that boys slept in his bed. Would a pedophile really publicly admit to having young boys sleep in his bed? We all know that MJ’s childhood was stolen. We all knew that he identified and trusted children more than adults. I don’t think that it’s so difficult to make the leap that he had truly regressed to a child-like personality.
I believe that when a crime as horrific as pedophilia is alleged, we all tune out and are not as objective as we should be. I know I was and I hope that I don’t rush to such judgments in the future. By writing MJ off, I just missed the gift and talent of his music.
Final note, as an attorney, I can tell you that there are a host of reasons for settling a case. It is my understanding that the money for the original settlement was not MJ’s but rather, insurance money. Further, he was persuaded to settle out of Court by friends Lisa Marie Presley and Liz Taylor after he had a near breakdown. When you look at the actions of the parents of the alleged victims and the fact that there was no physical evidence of a crime, I believe that these people were grifters.

If any of you anti-MJ pro-pedophiles can present facts that can prove your claims that he was a pedophile, then present them or forever hold your peace. The man is dead now and there is no room for opinion/reason.

All I have read on the anti-MJ side here are mere opinions, all based on what appears to be emotions and not facts.

The facts are, he was served due process and was found “innocent on all charges.” That means he committed no crimes.That means he was not a pedophile. That means you need to let it go and stop trying to infer guilt.

Perhaps you should focus your attention and energy on the real child abusers in this case and they are the ones who used their children for their own personal gain while destroying the life of a true benefactor who gave more life to all and less to none.

Correction: anti-MJ pro-pedophiles theorists*;please not I wasn’t inferring a support of pedophilia but the theory that MJ was one.

I agree totally. Now there are so many out there publishing lies about Jordan Chandler, saying he lied and is now admitting it. If you read his complaint on The Smoking Gun website, its a very typical description of how pedophiles operate. I’ve read time and again that MJ paid off many boys and their families, upwards of two hundred million dollars over the years. No doubt, he was a talented man, but also a tormented person and obviously a pedophile. But if you day say a word against him they will tell you that you will burn in hell. The sad thing is that these kids that were molested, many of them grown now have a very different point of view of Jackson. the kids that were victimized are being victimized again by the people that vilify them for telling the truth. As a victim of child molestation myself, I can tell you that it is a lifelong battle to overcome. The scars never go away. The people that turn and attack child abuse victims are truly wicked.

Why would Michael want to settle out of court if he was not guilty?

Perhaps to save the years of possible cout battels that would be accompanied with continued bad publicity and public scorn and further damage his career. Most lawyers would recommend settlement for a celebrity client. Seeing it through to court and being proven innocent would not have prevented public scorn as so many claimed. After all he was found innocent in 2005 but we still accuse him and associate guilt.

Why would a parent whose child has been molested settle out of court? Beats me – they could have prosecuted and sent MJ to jail and still sued him and got millions. What parent would not see the person who ruined their child’s live through to justice.

Mike was never convicted of anything so if he was a molester he got away with it. So where are the victims now that they are adults who can speak for themselves – on their own behalf? Why have they not come forth and declared him a molester or to seek the justice they have not gotten? The victims of the Catholic Priest came out decades later and won justice for themselves – where are the supposed MJ victims?

Someone call him a serial molester on here – that’s funny because serial molester do not molest once every 10 years – they molest every chance they get. Molester do not pick and choose their victims – they molest any child they have access too. If MJ was a serial molester or a molerster at all common sense dictates there would be loads of victims givien the fact that he had access to hundresds of children throughout the years.

I know a teacher that was accussed of molesting a student. He was offered a plea bargain because of the victims questionable past of false accusations. He refused it and defended himself in court and won!!! However, he was never able to get a job as a teacher again and now sells insurance for a living. He lost everything defending himself including his marriage due to the financial strain of the legal fees as well as not be able to find a job.

Moral – in a society where we live adn breath gossip adn innuendo – all it takes is a accusation to ruin someone. Truth only matter in eternity. MJ now has his truth whether we know it or not.

I simply asked if anyone can produce direct evidence of their opinion and others who share it that in fact Michael Jackson was a pedophile.

I am not talking about hearsay, opinions, out of court settlements, which by the way are not an admission of guilt, just ask any insurance company. They make them every day of the week to avoid long drawn out costly litigation. Just simply the facts.

I don’t believe anyone can. So we are left to “our own personal feelings” about what really went on.

In the end it simply comes down to how we were conditioned to think about people who may be different.

People can be different, quite different then what we are used to. They may do things that make eyebrows raise but that doesn’t in itself make them criminals. It just simply makes them different and that’s what I believe was the case with Michael Jackson: He was different

I invite you to read the following. I think you will find it quite interesting:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/james-arthur-ray/no-one-who-was-normal-eve_b_222024.html

Best regards,
Alex

I am reading some of the blogs and am not surprised at the tone of some of these. “He got what he deserved.” How can someone deserve death. I am a Christian and I was not there and I look at the evidence. Okay, the first so called molestation charges were paid off, not a good mood, but with how the media takes everything and to try to save his image, understandable. He wanted this to go away. But even after the so called doubt was put there, who would allow their children to go to his home and be alone with him after this. This sounds like a ploy from the beginning. Then the 2nd accuser’s own mother said that nothing had happened and that her son’s father had put him up to it. Come on people, this is a classic case of believing what the media says, not the facts. Evidently there was not believable evidence to convict him because the jury looked at the evidence and found him “NOT GUILTY.”
That is a problem with people and believing everything that is said. But when someone lies on you and it is believed by everyone how will you feel.

Think about this before you cast judgment.

I agree with Hedda about MJ possibly being sexually abused. The Jackson family is quite weird sexually. Jermained married Randy’s ex-wife and had two kids by her. Now the kids from both brothers are first cousins and brother and sisters. Latoya was in that strange S&M marriage. Latoya said MJ was sick and needed help and she also said that the father had sexually abused her. Later she recanted her statements due to family pressure. Joe Jackson has a seperate family. Janet had a “secret” marriage, and was known to be a freaky chick (I do love Janet, though). One of the Jackson’s ex-wives died mysteriously in the swimming pool. The Jackson’s have so many secrets. I beleive that is why MJ got so sick, and why he hated his father.

Tito’s wife (the one that drowned) was murdered by her boyfriend. Tito was instrumental in bringing the prep to justice.

Lovely: I’m not an MJ fan, you are very quick at jumping to conclusions. My indignation doesn’t come from appreciation of his music or robot-dancing abilities, it comes from people’s readiness to assume the worst from others. Everyone basically says “He was a great musician, but also quite probably, a pedo”, as if a fact and and opinion belonged in the same category in the first place. It’s incredible that nobody here notices the difference. Mama’s Blog says “If he did these things to those kids, then…”, as if the man was still on trial. The man is dead, he died from a health condition that was worsened by the type of rumors and misinformation found in her very blog.

Manuel,

Thanks for responding back. I thought you were a fan because of your blog,maybe I was wrong. I think people look at poor Michael’s decline and weirdness. The transformaton of his face and the fact he said he only had two surgeries is obviously a lie, the public watched him grow up and we know how his face looked. The strange behaviours,and lies makes people feel like this–if you lied about his you might have lied about that. Lying about being the biological father of the kids, those kids are not black. Those types of things make you wonder and go, huuum. Thats what makes people automatically believe he sexually abused children. I do feel sad that he is dead, and that is probably why I am blogging for the first time. Anyway, he didn’t die of health conditions he died of drug abuse and not eating well. Like so many other “stars” that died before him. If you don’t have a strong mental foundation before your become famous your inner demons will kill you.

Peace out,

I don’t know if people are aware that many people have killed themselves because MJ died. I find this totally absurd, but many people idolized him and they were obviously mentally unstable as well. His dying just pushed them over the edge. It is good to tell the truth and be real on these websites to help the people that are still alive and might be reading these blogs can get a fresh prespective. When you are an icon the world looks at the good, bad and the ugly of your life,but they want to sweep bad stuff under the rug and give you a free pass. That is the reality of fame and fortune. Only God, and the parties involved,know what MJ did with those children, and even though he is dead I can’t get past that and pretend he was this great postive force in the world, a part of him was and the other part was self-destructive. When the second allegatgions came down and it happened twice he lost my vote of confidence. I am here to say loud and clear he is NOT worth killing yourselves over no one is. So if anyone reading this blog feels like that please call someone and get help.

funny thing is you are only pointing out crimes from blacks, u do know there are many whites who have gotten away with many crimes who are celebritys.

the world like MJ said needs heal…and some people too…leave michael jackson R.I.P. now…well….now he is…..so talk whatever we want he is R.I.P. now…..thanks God for it…and only god can judge .remeber that..cuz tomorrow is
another day and could happen the same thing with us….so be carefull…the divine justice dont fail never…dudes…

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